Canadian Boats

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Canadian Boats

Post by jmgriff » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:16 am

Would a boat with number KC10 be the same construction as the King Ferry Canoe ICs with USA numbers 150-170 that were made for the 1981 Worlds? Is there a serial number anywhere on the boats? Thank you.

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Re: Canadian Boats

Post by Steve Clark » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:02 pm

I believe that KC10 was the prototype King Ferry Canoe. It was built a little differently than the later boats in that it had a 1/4" aft deck instead of a 3/16" aft deck. It also had first generation lack of stringers in the bottom and was not as stiff as the later boats ( which also weren't very stiff. It was originally red and named Rosebud. I sold it to a doctor in Toronto ( I think) named Tony Wells. I'm really surprised it still exists. The HIN number was engraved onto the starboard side of the stern, and is probably filled with paint and primer. It is possible that it is another boat that has had KC 10 sails added to it. The inlay on the front of the seat carriage was a bit more "Tijuana" than I remember Rosebud.
The US sail number was 151. US 150 was a glass hull I imported from England which I finished and sold to Chris Converse. It was so bad, I had to take it back and build him a new boat, which was actually lucky because "Rabbit" changed our perception of fast and set the stage for what was to come. I stopped sailing Rosebud and built Kermit in about 2 weeks. When we showed up in Sweden, no one noticed until the first 3 races, none of which finished, but either Chris or I was launched by several minutes when they blew them off. I collected the first in my long string of silver medals, and Chris was 7th I think.
The King Ferry boats were not the best built boats ever, but they were pretty cheap and went plenty fast. I'm amazed that they are still around 30+ years later. I figured they would be good for about 10 when I was building them.
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Re: Canadian Boats

Post by timgitt » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:04 pm

It's been ages since I've been on this forum, alas. Anyways, regarding KC10. KC10 (Snoopy) was a Whitman Pheonix built by Ted Causey. I bought KC10 from Walter Koziak's son after Walter passed away. I sailed KC10 for several years before buying CAN33 which is a glass/plywood King Ferry Nethercott. After acquiring CAN33 i gutted KC10 to make the conversion into an AC. I thought a Pheonix would make an awesome AC. I had partially rebuilt the internal structures when I had three kids in three years, one with Down Syndrome. Poor KC10 sat in my garage for years unfinished when we moved and I no longer had a garage. Sadly, I took her to the dump in pieces after taking a Sawzall to her. As well I gave away CAN33 to John Summers, curator of the Canadian Canoe Museum, because I knew he would take care of her and I had not the time, space or money. My sad saga!!

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Re: Canadian Boats

Post by Willy Clark » Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:20 pm

Believe CAN33 survived and is now with Krygle Daly, having passed through the hands of (I think) John Summers then Jeannie Griffin. She is now in Webster, MA and sailed a bunch last year on Webster Lake.

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