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New York Canoe Club International Challenge Cup

Post by Christian AUS » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:00 pm

As our only International Perpetual (well unil Germany judging by the skippers meeting) Australia is pretty chuffed to be holding the trophy. I also did a little research on it:

The markings on the Trophy are:
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With a Maltese Cross on the left of the bottom of the Jug.

This means that it made by Gorham Manufacturing Co. of Providence, RI in 1886 (the Cross indicates the date). Today, Gorham is a wholly owned subsidiary of Lenox, Inc.

Among Gorham's major commissioned works are the statue of George Washington in the U. S. Capital rotunda, the statue of Theodore Roosevelt at the Museum of Natural History in New York City, and many U. S. Presidents have chosen Gorham sterling silver tableware for use during their years in the White House including Abraham Lincoln, Ulysses S. Grant, and both Bush presidencies. Gorham also created the trophies for some of the world's premier sporting events including the Indianapolis 500 race and of course the New York Canoe Club and the International Challenge Cup.

http://www.925-1000.com/Gorham_Date_Code.html
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Re: New York Canoe Club International Challenge Cup

Post by jimc » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:14 pm

Christian AUS wrote:the America's Cup trophy for sailing
Oh yeah? That will come as a big suprise to Garrards in London! Think they are over claiming!

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Post by Christian AUS » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:52 pm

I thought it was Garrard too, but I just pasted the info from the website - interesting. I'll ammend that and keep looking.

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Post by jimc » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:34 pm

Christian AUS wrote:I just pasted the info from the website
I wonder if the US silversmith made the hole in the jug which was famously used to bolt it down until Bertrand, Benny and Bondy intervened?

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Post by Christian AUS » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:08 am

Okay, before the Cup goes to the Sydney Maritime Museum I got the names and details off of it (please let me know if I got them right, some of that cursive engraving is a little hard to read)

http://www.internationalcanoe.yachting. ... 20Roll.htm

**Corrections made thanks to pbelenky
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Post by Ben Fuller » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:55 am

Christian,

Some stuff may not be on the cup but is good to know.
84 the race was in Angleholm Swe; needs s little 0 on top of the A. Not sure I have the spelling correct. I guess the boat names did not make it.


88 was in Noank Connecticut USA
93 San Francisco

Clark's name does not have an e at the end.

You can see how much fun we have had doing the NYCC at the worlds. I had to get a codicil to the Deed of Gift to allow it to happen..

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Post by Christian AUS » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:43 am

Cheers Ben,

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Post by Steve Clark » Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:09 am

In 1988 In Noank, my mount was Cricket USA 187
In 93 it was Zydeco USA 200
In 2002 It was Greymatter, USA 171
In 88 Martin Herbert and Erich Chase didn't sail the same boat.
I believe Martin's boat was called Miss Vicky of Jazzland.
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Post by Mark Goodchild » Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:40 am

Christian,

It's great to see all the data documented. My boat number should be the same from '96: GBR 265. I think the same error may have crept in for L Nobles number.
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Re: New York Canoe Club International Challenge Cup

Post by Christian AUS » Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:02 am

Hi Everyone,

The NYCC Challenge Cup will be going on display in the Australian Maritime Museum next Tuesday; however the ANMM staff are arranging an ‘official’ presentation on Friday October 10 at 1000.
Please let me know if you are interested and can make it at this time, so I can let the Museum know in advance, by emailing me by Friday 3rd October.
International Sailing Races
In 1885 the New York Canoe Club offered the International Challenge Cup, a perpetual challenge trophy for sailing canoes. The cup may be challenged for not oftener than once each year by any regular organized canoe club outside of the United States. Each contest is a best two out of three affair, and each race is not less than eight nor more than ten miles.
http://www.sail-world.com/Australia/ind ... ickerCID=0



Unfortunately I won’t be able to be there (unless a winning lotto ticket turns up) but I hope that IC sailors, 2008 Worlds Sponsors, McCrae staff and of course Trophy winners Hayden Virtue, Seth Dunbar and Tim Wilson can all be there to share in the displaying of this chapter in sailing history.

Oh, and they are polishing up the trophy but a photo is attached.
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An unpolished (can you see the champagne stains, or are they tears from UK sailors) NYCC International Challenge Cup
An unpolished (can you see the champagne stains, or are they tears from UK sailors) NYCC International Challenge Cup
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