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by Ben Fuller
Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:03 am
Forum: World Championships
Topic: New York Cup rules
Replies: 5
Views: 7769

Re: New York Cup rules

As I recall when we tried to get North Shore to do away with the old rules and accede to the new ones this was the best that they would accept. I don't know about others but I recall sending challenger of record letters or getting someone to do so. It was relatively rare that the challenger of recor...
by Ben Fuller
Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:44 am
Forum: World Championships
Topic: New York Cup rules
Replies: 5
Views: 7769

New York Cup rules

Folks, I dug around in my computer files and found the correspondence, which the web site would not let me attach to this message. I can send it PM to any that need it. I believe is what was finally accepted by the North Shore Yacht Club back in 1996. As I recall we tried to get North Shore to go al...
by Ben Fuller
Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:10 am
Forum: Latest Developments
Topic: Magazine Article?
Replies: 15
Views: 13301

Re: Magazine Article?

Regarding the new rules why does it take so long to have them approved a few of us have designed and built entire boats since the ballot was completed and how many others are holding of designing and building because of the delays. We are at a critical point in the growth/future of the class we nee...
by Ben Fuller
Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:14 pm
Forum: Europa Cup
Topic: Europa Cup 2009
Replies: 9
Views: 12204

Re: Europa Cup 2009

For the national silverware things do have to be determined by the national sailing committee. The international sailing committee only can work on stuff like Europa and the Worlds. And the Europa by recommendation only as it is not an international competition as defined in the ICF rules.
by Ben Fuller
Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:45 pm
Forum: Europa Cup
Topic: Europa Cup 2009
Replies: 9
Views: 12204

Re: Europa Cup 2009

The way this works is that the IC is the IC and the Europa Cup is for the IC; if enough Classic canoes participate then the organizer can set it up for them to race separately just as if enough AC's show up. This all will be ironed out in the next sailing committee meeting which we are trying to set...
by Ben Fuller
Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:31 pm
Forum: ICF Sailing Committee
Topic: Sailing Committee Ballot report
Replies: 52
Views: 49265

Re: Sailing Committee Ballot report

I don't know when we will see a new printed copy of rules. For purposes of planning what Neil has here is valid. The only other changes were to change to follow Ola's suggestion and rename the Nethercott the one design and reference the AC to the one design rule. So that the development rule is the...
by Ben Fuller
Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:58 am
Forum: ICF Sailing Committee
Topic: Sailing Committee Ballot report
Replies: 52
Views: 49265

Re: Sailing Committee Ballot report

I don't know when we will see a new printed copy of rules. For purposes of planning what Neil has here is valid. The only other changes were to change to follow Ola's suggestion and rename the Nethercott the one design and reference the AC to the one design rule. So that the development rule is the ...
by Ben Fuller
Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:45 pm
Forum: ICF Sailing Committee
Topic: Sailing Committee Ballot report
Replies: 52
Views: 49265

Re: Sailing Committee Ballot report

Since this is not organized by the ICFSC, I think it would be up to the organizing group to figure this out with a goal of maximizing participation. I believe that there have been separate 'cups' for AC and ICs. I would think you could wait and see what the participation looks like. If you can have ...
by Ben Fuller
Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:55 am
Forum: ICF Sailing Committee
Topic: Sailing Committee Ballot report
Replies: 52
Views: 49265

Re: Sailing Committee Ballot report

I don't know. This stuff is supposed to go in effect 45 days after the meeting. ICF has to send me the current version; I push things around a little, add the new section II, move the old one to section IV then make the reference changes to section III.

ben
by Ben Fuller
Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:31 am
Forum: ICF Sailing Committee
Topic: Sailing Committee Ballot report
Replies: 52
Views: 49265

Re: Sailing Committee Ballot report

New boats don't automatically run off with the hardware in a 'one design fleet" as anyone who showed at the Rhode Island worlds know. We now have a transitional fleet: the new boats automatically have a xx% speed advantage. As we know there are plenty of 3-6 year old One Designs out there which have...
by Ben Fuller
Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:09 pm
Forum: ICF Sailing Committee
Topic: Sailing Committee Ballot report
Replies: 52
Views: 49265

Re: Sailing Committee Ballot report

To answer some questions: I think tech rules go into effect 45 days after passage. I have not talked to ICF yet about getting them printed up etc. Remember we have the IC rule, the AC rule and the One Design rule. AC's are referenced nto the One Design rule, not the new rule. This was all discussed ...
by Ben Fuller
Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:54 pm
Forum: ICF Sailing Committee
Topic: Sailing Committee Ballot report
Replies: 52
Views: 49265

Re: Sailing Committee Ballot report

Folks, Just back from ICF meeting. Proposal passed without problems. 5 minutes for 5 days.... anyway. I have to work out with the ICF office getting all the stuff down on paper, then do the minute of the SC meeting. Not going to do any of it now, time for the bunk. Christian sent a beta of the dvd, ...
by Ben Fuller
Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:04 pm
Forum: ICF Sailing Committee
Topic: Sailing Committee Ballot report
Replies: 52
Views: 49265

Re: Sailing Committee Ballot report

Colin, You pretty much have it right. Individual countries can organize things as they wish. In order to keep up the interest in sailing the older boats, if a separate trophy is not given, consideration could be given to Portsmouth numbers. As far as the worlds go, the basic boat is the Internationa...
by Ben Fuller
Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:26 am
Forum: ICF Sailing Committee
Topic: Sailing Committee Ballot report
Replies: 52
Views: 49265

Re: Sailing Committee Ballot report

Do we seriously think that new boats will be built to the OD rule anywhere except in Britain? And then mostly for AC use? This system shows the way for class growth, while letting people who have older equipment still play. The only thing that the keeping the OD rule might do is keeping people from ...
by Ben Fuller
Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:17 am
Forum: Latest Developments
Topic: Rule status
Replies: 54
Views: 50629

Re: Rule status

An interesting compromise... not one I would have voted for I think but there could be a great deal in the detail. Its going to take a bit of digesting to pick up the implications. I think I'd have wanted to have seen a removal of the limits on correctors in the one design rule so that it would be ...